Paul: A real disciple of the Lord Jesus?
Sure?
Cursing? (or anathematizing?) Whomever did not believe in our Lord Jesus Christ? (1Co_16:22).
I would pray that “Paul´s” anathematizing spirit do not follow Jesus´ followers. Since he (if he was a real person) so proudly said something like this: “...in the name of our Lord Jesus, ye being gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus, to deliver such a one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.” (1Co 5:4, 5)
If most of the pastors or Church leaders were delivering sinners and adulterers -that way Paul taught about- many believers (or unbelievers) would be dead, and out of those churches you know “such things” are happening.
Our Lord Jesus taught that?
Did Jesus taught to curse a man? (He taught His disciples to curse things, instead. Just to show them the power of faith: Mat_21:21)
Instead, Jesus taught us to bless people (Mat_5:44, Luk 6:28) and His followers blessed, even at the point of dead (Act 7:60 He knelt down and shouted, "Lord, don't blame them for what they have done." Then he died.).
I wish I had the same Holy Spirit that Stephen had! (Not Paul´s! By the way. Because it is a human spirit of a mortal man.)
If you think he was totally inspired by the HS, allow me to insist on these things his writings showed, as his emotional background:
a) He delivered sinners unto Satan´s will? (1Co 5:4, 5) (Did he heard Jesus´ or God´s will?)
b) He stubbornly opposed those who were partners (Act_15:39) Later on, he changed that (Col_4:10, 2Ti_4:11, Phm_1:24)
c) His former religious seal approved the stoning and the killing of people (Act_8:1, Act_9:1, Act_22:4) Yet, he did wrong, again (1Co 5:4, 5)
d) He wanted to be followed by Barnabas (Act_15:39) and Apollos followed his own heart (1Co_16:12) not Paul´s ruling and controling human spirit.
e) He “reinforced” his religious authority by telling several believers they were “his”, or that he saw the Lord Jesus (1Co_3:6, 1Co_9:1-2, Gal_2:8, 2Co_12:11) performing miracles (2Co_12:12)
f) He seemed to be jealous of the apostleship the Lord Jesus gave His chosen ones (2Co_12:11)
g) When he challenged people to stay as “he was” (in celibacy) he also acknowledged those human rights he wasn´t making use of, like the rest of the apostles, who were actually married and getting money from serving the Lord´s people (1Co_9:5)
My bottom line, and ultimate thought:
Could it be possible that the true Gospel of the Lord Jesus could be widespread without the RCC´s teachings?
I don´t know Greek to translate the LOST originals and, those COPIES I also believed by faith, by believing they are actual and exact copies of those already utterly lost.
It´s sad God haven´t given us, humans and believers, an updated COPY of His words and will, today.
A.T.
Sure?
Cursing? (or anathematizing?) Whomever did not believe in our Lord Jesus Christ? (1Co_16:22).
I would pray that “Paul´s” anathematizing spirit do not follow Jesus´ followers. Since he (if he was a real person) so proudly said something like this: “...in the name of our Lord Jesus, ye being gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus, to deliver such a one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.” (1Co 5:4, 5)
If most of the pastors or Church leaders were delivering sinners and adulterers -that way Paul taught about- many believers (or unbelievers) would be dead, and out of those churches you know “such things” are happening.
Our Lord Jesus taught that?
Did Jesus taught to curse a man? (He taught His disciples to curse things, instead. Just to show them the power of faith: Mat_21:21)
Instead, Jesus taught us to bless people (Mat_5:44, Luk 6:28) and His followers blessed, even at the point of dead (Act 7:60 He knelt down and shouted, "Lord, don't blame them for what they have done." Then he died.).
I wish I had the same Holy Spirit that Stephen had! (Not Paul´s! By the way. Because it is a human spirit of a mortal man.)
If you think he was totally inspired by the HS, allow me to insist on these things his writings showed, as his emotional background:
a) He delivered sinners unto Satan´s will? (1Co 5:4, 5) (Did he heard Jesus´ or God´s will?)
b) He stubbornly opposed those who were partners (Act_15:39) Later on, he changed that (Col_4:10, 2Ti_4:11, Phm_1:24)
c) His former religious seal approved the stoning and the killing of people (Act_8:1, Act_9:1, Act_22:4) Yet, he did wrong, again (1Co 5:4, 5)
d) He wanted to be followed by Barnabas (Act_15:39) and Apollos followed his own heart (1Co_16:12) not Paul´s ruling and controling human spirit.
e) He “reinforced” his religious authority by telling several believers they were “his”, or that he saw the Lord Jesus (1Co_3:6, 1Co_9:1-2, Gal_2:8, 2Co_12:11) performing miracles (2Co_12:12)
f) He seemed to be jealous of the apostleship the Lord Jesus gave His chosen ones (2Co_12:11)
g) When he challenged people to stay as “he was” (in celibacy) he also acknowledged those human rights he wasn´t making use of, like the rest of the apostles, who were actually married and getting money from serving the Lord´s people (1Co_9:5)
My bottom line, and ultimate thought:
Could it be possible that the true Gospel of the Lord Jesus could be widespread without the RCC´s teachings?
I don´t know Greek to translate the LOST originals and, those COPIES I also believed by faith, by believing they are actual and exact copies of those already utterly lost.
It´s sad God haven´t given us, humans and believers, an updated COPY of His words and will, today.
A.T.